Indus script or symbols so far has posed a problem
before the scholars because though various approaches and efforts are made to
decipher it, still, so far, there is no success. In absence of the Rosetta stone,
a bilingual inscription, Indus script could not be read conclusively to help
understand the language of the people of those times and who were they. Aryan
Invasion or Migration theory had led to the some scholars to think the script
could belong to the Dravidian speaking people and hence the language of the
script could be of Dravid origin. Asko Parpola has devoted his life in
decipherment of the script on this basis. 1 Many Sanskritist
scholars rather think the language of Indus script is Vedic Sanskrit and
they too have claimed to have deciphered it. 2 However
these claims have been refuted outright or even have been called fraudulent. The
scholars like Farmer et al have claimed that the signs appearing on the seals
are not meant to encode speech but are non-linguistic symbols to serve key
religious, political and social functions or serving as formal memory aids. 3 There has been attempts to find origins or
similarities of the script with other extant deciphered scripts of the
contemporary civilizations, however, those attempts, too, have been failed for
there simply is no similar script have ever been located. Decipherment through
the computer programs has not yet been successful, the students of TIFR have
been able to conclude from the sign combinations appearing on every seal may be
meaningful and the writing is highly ordered. 4
Nonetheless, the fact, so far, remains that the
Indus script or non-linguist symbols remains as an enigma. However, we need to
discuss on the following points, if at all they can help, to take a new
approach to solve this riddle.
1. LANGUAGE
ISSUE: Aryan invasion theory led to
some scholars like Parpola to think the displaced population of the Indus
Valley was Dravidian. Naturally he thought that the language spoken in NW area
could be none other than Dravidian before invading Aryans subjugated and forced
Dravidians out. Some so-called Dravidian in Rig Veda, considered to be loan
words, too became one of the foundations of his theory. This is why he made
every effort to read Dravidian in every symbol and tried to connect with that
language. 5
NS Rajaram and N Jha had also claimed to have deciphered Indus script and its language being Sanskrit. 6
However both the claims so far have not been well received by the scholars. Rather Rajaram’s attempt to forge an Indus seal to prove horse presence in Indus valley have been a blot on Indian scholarship.
NS Rajaram and N Jha had also claimed to have deciphered Indus script and its language being Sanskrit. 6
However both the claims so far have not been well received by the scholars. Rather Rajaram’s attempt to forge an Indus seal to prove horse presence in Indus valley have been a blot on Indian scholarship.
However, it is a fact that the Indus script must be
conveying some speech. A speech that was spoken that only could have been inscribed
on the seals and other objects in form of the script. The images appearing on
the Indus seals and the scriptural symbols stand apart in design and order. Rather images are far beautiful over the
scriptural symbols. Still almost every seal carries one or more symbol to
denote something, which we do not know at the present what it is conveying.
However, let us deal first with the preconceived
notions about the immigrant Aryans entering in subcontinent to enforce their
languages. It is not at all a proven fact. Vedic religion came to India through
its handful of the preachers but the Rig Vedic language was modified later
based on the local Prakrits. Since there is no proof that there ever was any
invasion or migration to India hence the displacement of the Dravidians from
Indus regions can be outright rejected. There are proofs that there has been
interaction between the people of Indian subcontinent from ancient times
despite their independent linguistic groups. But the major influence would be
of the local tongues, those naturally would reflect in the encoded speech,
except for the terms for the goods imported from those regions.
Presence of the Sanskrit becomes far more doubtful
because there is no proof it existed before first century AD. There is not even
a single specimen inscription available that would indicate existence of even
Vedic language prior to third century BC. Vedic language presence in ancient
times is moreover a myth based on the hypothetical ideas of language
evolutions. Existence of Vedic language prior to Prakrits is mere a hypothesis,
presented by PIE migrationist theorists, to substantiate their theories of
origin, but they do not present any physical proof of its existence in support.
Moreover, Indus civilization possesses
no Vedic cultural element. There are attempts, though, to connect somehow
Vedics with the IVC, but they remain only speculative but put forth vehemently!
So, wishful thinking that the Dravidian or Sanskrit
language is encoded ion Indus script and attempting to decipher the ancient
script on that basis wouldn’t be correct. The failed attempts speak for
themselves.
2. There have been attempts to decipher some certain
signs, such as fish, arrow and terminal signs. Parpola thinks fish sign
actually denotes “min” (for fish) which actually represents the ‘star’ or
‘planet’ in Dravidian languages. The jar sign is most frequently appearing sign
in the Indus script. BB Lal thinks the jar sign is quite similar with the various
jars found at Kalibangan whereas Parpola thinks it represents front
side of the bull or cow. Frequently
occurring at the end are arrow or lance signs which is supposed to be the
suffix. 7 There are examples (funny sometimes they might appear) the
readers of Indus script have read Hammurabi as Ravan in the script!
However, we can see, this does not help. The Indus
people might not have intended from fish sign the actual “fish” or any cognate
for fish or stars in their language. Attempting to derive astrological or
mythological elements from the signs too is equally incorrect. One must bear in
the mind the purpose of the seals. Unless that is understood properly signs on
the seals will remain insoluble problem for ever.
3. Most of
the script, single or few more signs, appears on the seals and tablets. Also we
can find that there is certain chronological evolution in the seal making and
even in the script signs, but natural in course of the time. Brahmi and
Kharosti, the ancient known scripts of India, too, show the gradual progression
in style. Indus script spans from its early Ravi phase (3300 BC) till 1800 BC.
Hence the changes in the style come as no surprise.
There is variety of the seals, from square to button
like seals. Some are not intended to be seals, as the inscriptions are not in
mirror image, but they could have been used to provide individual identity and
rank. Some scholars think they, especially button-seals, could have been used
as passports or used as identity cards by the royal officers.
Other inscriptions found so far are on pottery and
copper objects. The total signs found in IVC are about 417. Average signs on
the seal are 5. It is said that this is not the pictorial script because the
Chinese pictorial script has as many as 4000 signs. Because of the brevity of the Indus signs, maximum
being 17 of Dholavira signboard and average on the seals being 5, the reading
has become almost impossible. Over 5000 short Indus texts are available today
waiting for breakthrough. So far it only is understood that the writing system
was right to left, nothing else. There is probability that the script was used
for other writing as well, such as royal communication, land records and
internal correspondence, but no such specimen has been surfaced so far. Indian
writing, almost had been on the perishable palm leafs or wooden plates, hence
in all probabilities its finding is almost impossible; if at all it was used
for such purposes.
4. Instead of looking for mythological
representations from the symbols those occur in the script; let us take another
direction to find a way to decipher them.
a.
Purpose: The main Purpose of the seals, which appears from
the available proofs, was to mark packaged goods, meant for export or inland
trade. Also it is suggested that some seals could have been used to stamp mark
of the authority. 8 However we must distinguish the seals
accordingly to find their purpose.
Mostly
square seals have been used to make impression on clay
or resin-like soft material on the packaged goods. Now there is proof available
that the jute bags, besides wooden boxes, were in use to pack the materials.
The seals bear, besides script, single animal like unicorn, bull, elephant,
tiger and sometimes abstract logo. We can assume that these animal/logo seals
could have been representing identity of the group/city/province or trading guild,
just like modern corporate logos.
In India, during Mahajanpada era, the punch marked
coins bearing unique symbols, representing their territories along with the different
symbols representing the identities of the issuers of the coins and its
location of origin were in circulation. The similar practice must have been in
vogue in Indus times. The animal or other logos appearing on the seals must
have been serving the similar purpose to denote the origin of the supplier (or
trading guild) of the packaged goods. So, the animals, even mythical like
unicorns, appearing on the seals are not arbitrary but have specific purpose.
Naturally, then, it would be obvious, apart from the
identity of the supplier, to write what good were packed inside of the bags or
boxes, for not only knowledge of the transporter but buyer as well. Many of the
Indus seals have been found in Mesopotamia, Indus people traded with. The
purpose of such square seals, except cylindrical seals, cannot be attributed to
just signify elite status or to manifest power and prestige but to represent
the identities of the seller’s from the unique symbols and identity of the
goods and quantity from the script.
Now, if we now think on the script appearing over
the seals, what could it, most possibly, convey?
In all probabilities, the script would denote the
goods that were packed in the sealed bags or boxes. The seals were manufactured
not to use just once but to make repetitive marks. It also would indicate the
volume that could have been traded from IVC. the numeric marks over the seals
speak of it, though we so far are unable to understand what the numeric signs
would have represented,
Iconography would indicate origin of the goods and
script would inform what was packed. Most probably the quantity also was
mentioned. Some seals appear to be having simple numeric marks, though we do
not know as yet the figures numeric signs did represent. Some seals appear to
have only scriptural signs but no iconography, indicating miscellaneous goods
or suppliers. Alternatively, the general produces like cotton and timber; there
was no necessity to mark the origin, but just name of the product and quantity.
Such signs, as under, could have been used for general purposes.
Since the purpose of the seals was to mark the
merchandise, it would not bear any personal names or any religious or other
political information. Rather the seals were made of soft stones and other
materials including gold, with boss at the back to help make right impression
and for repetitive use. This would mean that for the repetitively
traded/exported goods such permanent or durable arrangement was necessary. The
art of seal making is a wonder in itself.
From above, we only can deduce that the script over
the seals must be informing about the name of the good and quantity packed. The
brevity of the script over the seals has only this explanation. Its purpose was
limited and it served well with just mentioning names of the goods and its
quantity and the literate people of those times could make sense out of it. Trying
to find mythological or historical meaning out of the seals becomes thus
baseless.
What
were mostly traded goods from Indus Civilization?
Indus people grew cotton extensively, forming a
major part of their exports including cloth. Besides copper implements, beads
and bead necklaces, crafts, shell bangles etc. too were exported originating
from different locations. The beads were made of various semi-precious stones
like Carnelian, agates, chalcedonies etc. sourced from interior of the India as
well as from Afghanistan or from further Central Asian regions. Timber, such as
Teak and Deodar, also was a major export material to Mesopotamia. Gold, Silver
and Tin too formed a part of the export. 9
The Indus people had established their colonies in
Mesopotamia and probably in Afghanistan too to establish trade network. The
Indus seals have been found in Mesopotamia. So the seals found in Mesopotamia
may have been mentioning the imported goods. However, there is no conclusive
proof to inform us what Indus people could have been importing from Mesopotamia
or its nearby regions. 10 Also there are indicative proofs that the
Mesopotamian traders too would have settled in Indus regions, the way Indus
people made independent settlements there, under the common name “Meluha”.
Manufacturing
Zones
IGC (Indus-Ghaggar Civilization) was spread in the
vast region, as vast as 12.50 lakh sq. kilometers. The seals have been found
almost in the all excavated Indus sites, representing various periods. We know
from excavated sites that what material was mainly manufactured or produced
from different zones. The flint quarries too have been found to explain the
source of the raw materials that was used in making many useful items.
If we desire to really decode the script of IVC, we
first have to limit our efforts to the seals those were meant for trade. The
trading communities always limit their writing to the purpose and not religious
discourses. The motifs on the seals may even exhibit the religious beliefs, but
they certainly are intended and conveyed likewise.
We need to carefully classify the manufacturing
centers according to the products and regional agricultural produces. We know
for sure many of the raw materials were sourced from the subcontinent as well
as from distant locations. What IVC people were experts in to convert the raw
material to fine objects! They had qualities
of the artistic manufacture where contemporary civilizations lacked in. So
though the sources of the procurement may be different, after manufacturing to
make inland or overseas trade marking the merchandise was essential. Though,
the excavations at all the Indus sites and detailed analysis of the finds, it
won’t be impossible too to have a generalized idea as at the least we know what was exported from
Indus valley.
Hypothesis
The hypothesis is, if the seals were used to stamp the
packed goods or bundles for the identification of the goods and its
supplier/manufacturer or the trading guild, the script over the seals only
would inform the limited information of the name of the goods and, if
necessary, its quantity. We have
discussed that the animal motifs appearing on the seals must have been
representing identity of the supplier source. We do not know for sure what
Trading system IVC followed those times, but for the sake of unified foreign
and inland trade, some mechanism must have been present, without which massive
trade couldn’t have been possible.
To focus on the script, its brevity does speak that
it only contained name of the goods and quantity. They could not have been
meant to express anything other than that. They also were not just formal
memory aids as Steve Farmer et al claims. 11 Since the purpose of
the information was limited, there was no need to add irrelevant details. The
packed good-tags of modern day too are very brief and objective.
However, we confront here with a most debated
problem and that is in what language the names of the goods could have been
expressed? Was it Dravidian or Sanskrit? Or was it entirely different language
such as Munda or Austric?
At the least we can be assured of that the purpose
of the seal was not at all religious, though some of the motifs exhibit the
religious faiths of the people of those times. The elephant, unicorn and other
animals and trees could be representing totemic symbols of the trading families
those were meant to represent their identities most symbolically. Trying to
read any mythology from those symbols wouldn’t be wise. Purpose of the Indus
people was not to extend their religious beliefs to the other trading
communities, within India or elsewhere, but simply meant to trade their
merchandise.
Hence we only can see the commercial information on
the seals. There couldn’t be any relation between the motif and the message
that script conveyed, because wherever we find similar motifs, the script-signs
appearing on the seals are different many a times. This means that the motifs
inscribed on the seals meant to convey the origin of the supply/manufacture and
the script the name of the goods.
Now let us focus on language issue.
Language
As stated above, underlying language of the Indus
script is hotly debated issue. Initially Aryan Invasion/Migration theories were
in vogue and collapse of the Indus civilization was normally attributed to the
nomadic Aryans hoards. Also it used to be claimed that the Dravidians were part
and parcel of the Indus valley, those later on were displaced and forced out to
the south. Some hypothetical loan words
those were thought to be of Dravidian origin had boosted this claim. Naturally
the serious attempts had begun to decipher the script thinking the language of
IVC was Dravidian. Asko Parpola has done immense work to decipher the language based
on this hypothesis.
Later, troubled with the Invasion/Migration
theories, Indigenous Aryan School emerged to claim the authorship of the IVC
and thus tried to find the Vedic Sanskrit in Indus script. SR Rao, NS Rajaram,
N Jha etc. attempted in this direction, even made huge claims to have deciphered
the script.
However, both the claims, in lack of the solid
linguistic foundation, remained so far disputed though hotly they still are debated.
Paul D. LeBlanc in his thesis states, “The Dravidian and Āryan camps oppose each other in all of the
analytical perspectives surrounding the Indus script’s underlying language.
Each side argues in favour of identifying their own culture or language to that
of the ancient Indus Valley inhabitants.” 12 In short, the issue of
Aryan v/s Dravidians, in new forms was flared up to cause socio-cultural unrest
between north and south.
Indigenous
Aryan theorists, to counter European supremacist approaches started claiming
Indus valley being the original homeland of the Vedic Aryans and that the IE
languages and culture did spread to the west from north-west India. Once upon a
time, the same Indigenous Scholars used to be the same theory to prove their
foreign origin.
However,
it has been agreed upon by the scholars and archaeologists that there has been
no major invasion in India after +7000 BC. Also the present author has proved
geography of the Rigveda being Southern Afghanistan and not India. Also there
are enough proofs to indicate that the Vedic preachers came to India to speard
their religion when IVC was already disintegrated and was flourishing in new
forms in Gangetic plains. So there is no any probable relationship between
Vedic culture and IVC. So reading Vedic language in 2600 BC old Indus script
cannot yield any positive result.
There,
similarly, is no question of Dravidians being displaced from IVC, hence finding
Dravidian in the Indus script is equally wrong.
Now in
absence of both the possibilities we need to relook into the matter again and
try to solve this riddle.
First of
all, we must not forget here that the myth that the migrations of the PIE
speakers and spread of the so-called Indo-European languages is a carefully
nourished myth by the European linguists and scholars. Whatever were their
motives, but it has resulted in unnecessarily complicating the language issue
and so the cultural issues across south Asia and Europe. The present author has
seriously challenged the migration theories those are claimed to be
instrumental in spreading PIE languages and cultures. Rather the present author
13 has shown that to cause
the net of the languages, migrations are not necessary and also there are no
archaeological proofs of such migration at the least from +7000 BC onwards in
India. 14
Hence, we
are left with no choice but to accept the fact that the Indus people (and from
the rest of the parts of India) were settled in their respective regions since
last 10,000 years. Naturally the language they would have been speaking was the
ancestor language of the present languages those are still spoken in the IVC
regions and elsewhere in India. Regional variances in the languages too would
be but natural.
Looking at
the map we can identify the modern Prakrit languages being spoken in these
regions, including Panjabi, Sindhi, Rajashtani and Gujrathi. Culturally
speaking, most of the Indus cultural traits are preserved even by the modern
residents of these regions. For example it has been observed that the bangles
and pendants women wear in Gujrath are similar to the Indus varieties. The
bullock-carts, boats, utensils and the farmland furrowing practices are as similar
as they were in Indus times. The tradition has been well preserved in folk
culture. Hence, it won’t be a surprise the languages too, must have been spoken
in this region in their archaic form of the present regional languages.
We need to
remove the myth from the mind that it was Vedic or Sanskrit language from which
the Prakrits had evolved. There is no material proof to prove this assumption.
Rather Vedic language has evolved from the Prakrits including Sanskrit. The
Prakrit net of the languages was extant from Maharashtra to Gandhar, as evidenced
by the epigraphical as well as textual history. Hence, assuming that
the regional Early-Prakrits, ancestors of medieval Prakrits, were being spoken
in Indus era will not be incorrect or any kind of exaggeration. The Prakrit
substratum in Vedic language has been well detected and we cannot date Rig Veda
prior to 1500 BC although the Vedicist scholars want to date it back to
pre-Harappan era for their motives.
However,
it would seem my hypothesis is more logical for it is in line with the archaeological,
linguistic and anthropological history of India. Hence, instead of attempting
to find Dravidian or Sanskrit languages in Indus script, trying to locate
proto-Prakrits in it would be more logical.
The process
Now, we will have to focus on the seals those were
meant to stamp the packaged material. In the following chronology we may be
able to reach to the solution to the Indus script.
1. Classify the regions and the sites so far
excavated.
2. Segregate the manufactured items meant to be traded/exported
from particular regions.
3. Segregate
the seals as per their locations. (Dr. Iravathan Mahadevan has done monumental work in this
regards.)
4. Classify the regional languages and try to
reconstruct them for at the least the names of the concerned goods.
5. We have regional Prakrit specimens from the
epigraphs and other Prakrit literature from at the least 3rd Century
BC onwards. We need to reconstruct these Prakrits to understand what could be
their earliest forms during 2600 BC and onwards.
6. The names of the merchandise, in its proto or
early forms when satisfactorily understood we can undertake the further job to
attempt to relate them with the texts appearing on the seals.
7. The number of words denoting to certain goods and
number of the signs can be compared. The numeric signs too would come to be
understood to what quantity it could have denoted.
I strongly believe this is the only way to decode
the Indus script. Let us not forget here that the site names traditionally bear
the same information that could have been transmitted in those times. For the
site “Kalibangan” means black bangles and truly the Kalibangan site was a
manufacturing center of bangles in Indus times too. So the word “Kali” for
black and “Bangan” for bangles still carry the same information. The site name
must be similar to this in Indus times.
Conclusion:
There is no meaning in the attempts to decipher the
Indus script based on the Dravidian or Sanskrit for these languages were absent
from the Indus region. Also attempting to locate mythological information from
the seals, as Parpola and SR Rao have attempted, such forcible identifications
too, so far, has misled the scholars. The Indus script remained indecipherable
for over hundred years because the unscientific approaches were taken by the
scholars.
The reconstruction of the Prakrit names for the
traded goods and its comparison with the seals only could help to solve the
riddle of the Indus script. We do not need “cultural element finder” but a
commercial foundation of Indus script finder. There are no Vedas or Vedic
mythology, there is no Dravidian or their mythology, simply what the Indus
script conveys is our commercial abilities.
We need to focus on Indus script to decipher in this
direction!
-Sanjay
Sonawani
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2. The Deciphered Indus Script : Methodology, Readings,
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बाप्पा - नक्कीच सगळ्या नद्या या पावसाळ्याच्या आतमध्ये एकमेकाना जोडणार , किंवा मग सगळ्या गरीबाना शहरात मोफत घरे मिळणार , नाहीतर सर्वाना मोफत औषधे मिळणार
आप्पा - तुझी स्वप्ने आहेत छान , पण तसे काहीच नाही होणार रे गड्या !
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आप्पा - सध्या संजूबाबा मश्गुल आहे ते म्हणजे त्या निकोलस कझान ची फजिती करण्यात
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बाप्पा - आले लक्षात , वैदिक किंवा वैष्णव असे काहीतरी ना ?
आप्पा - अगदी मनकवडा रे तू -
बाप्पा - आणि त्याला खोडून काढत बसला ना आपला संजुदादा
आप्पा - नको रे संजुदादा असा त्रास करून घेऊ , त्यापेक्षा घुमानला जायला हवे होते
बाप्पा - पण मी म्हणतो तसे संजुदादाने जर नदीजोड प्रकल्प घेतला मनावर तर ?
आप्पा - सांगून तर बघुया - सर्वांचे कल्याण होईल असे काहीतरी या इहलोकी कर म्हणावे , कोण खरे आणि कोण खोटे ते बघुया म्हणावे नंतर ,आणि कोण आधिअले आणि कोण नंतर - याची कोणाला ओढ लागली आहे इतकी ? इथे माणसे तडफडून मारत आहेत , त्याना वाचवायचे कसे ते बघा , देश देश कशाने बनतो , त्यातलेच जर काही टाचा घासून पाण्यावाचून तडफडून मरत असतील तर तो निकोलस काय म्हणाला आणि संजय काय म्हणाला हे कोण वाचणार आहे ? हे उद्योग भरल्यापोटी करायचे असतात इतके तरी आमच्या संजू बाबाला नक्कीच माहित असणार - नाही का ?
आप्पा - बराच विचार करत होतो त्यावेळेस जाणवते की संजयाच्या लिहिण्याचा रोख काय असतो ?तर वैदिक आणि बहुजन ,उद्देश काय असेल तो असो ,त्यातून समाजाची काय आज पर्यंत प्रगती झाली ? तर काहीही नाही ,
ReplyDeleteबाप्पा - मग संजयाने काय करायला हवे ?तू म्हणशील त्याने मुसलमान समाजाचा पर्दा फाश केला पाहिजे कारण ते त्यांच्या अल्ला विषयी काहीच ऐकून घेत नाहीत , संजयने जर सलमान रुश्दी सारखे लिखाण मनापासून वाचून त्यावर काही भाष्य करायला पाहिजे
आप्पा - खरच किती सुसंगत आणि पुराव्यासह लिखाण केले आहे त्याने सैतानिक व्हर्सेस चे किती गुप्त इतिहास त्याने जगासमोर मांडला आहे !त्याला मारण्यासाठी किती मोठ्ठी रक्कम लावली होती
नाहीतर आपले वैदिक , संजयला माहित आहे की हा हातखंडा प्रयोग आहे , कुणीही यावे आणि टप्पल मारून जावे अशी या वैदिकांची अवस्था आहे , पण तसे नाही , आज परिस्थिती फार वेगळी आहे
बाप्पा - खरी काळाची गरज आहे ती भारतातून सलमान रुश्दी सारख्यांनी बिनधास्त चर्चा घडवून आणाव्यात आणि महम्मद खरा कोण होता ते जगास सांगावे , संजयाने साधे सलमान रुश्दिचे कौतुकही करू नये हे पण आश्चर्यच ! का असे वागावे , वैदिक धर्मातल्या चुका काढायचा ठेका त्याने घेतला आहे , तो स्वतः वैदिक नसून , पण कुराणातल्या चुका आणि भ्रष्ट्पणा तो खपवून घेतो ?
दिनेश शर्माजी ,
ReplyDeleteसादर प्रणाम,
इधर आप्पा बाप्पा नामसे ऐसा कहा गया है कि महम्मद पैगंबर के बारेमें सलमान रश्दी साहाब ने जो सातानिक व्हर्सेस किताबमे चर्चा की है उसका संदर्भ लेके संजय जी क्यो कुछ चर्चा करते ?
संजय सहाबको मुसलमान लोगोंका तुष्टीकरण करनेकी आदत तो नही है
और एक माजेकी बात मी बताना चाहता हुं
संजय साब कभीभी स्पेसिफिक सावालाका स्पेसिफिक जवाब नही देते
अस्सल इतिहासकार या चिंतन करनेवाले ऐसा कभीभी नही करते
आप जैसे उच्च विचार लिखनेवले लोग जब लिखते है कि रा स्व संघ , विवेकानंद , स्वामी अरविंद म गांधी जैसे लोग आर्य हिंदुस्तानाके बाहारसे इधर आए इस विचाराका विरोध करते है तबभी संजायाजीमे इतनी तमीज नाही ही कि दिल खोलकर उसका स्वागत करे , इसलिये उनकी विचारोन्को सराहानेवाले लोगोन्की अपरीपाक्वतापर बुरा असर होता जा रहा है
संजायाजीके वृत्तीमे निरोगी आदान प्रदानकी कमी महसूस होती है
दलित और मागास समाजाको येह एक शाप ही , जबतक एसेम जोशी साने गुरुजी जैसे सुशिक्षित (ब्राह्मण ) वर्गाके पास नेतृत्व था तबतक यह बात नाही ठी लेकिन जबसे संजय जैसे लोग चीन्तानाकी धुरा साम्भाले बैठे है तबसे यह विखार दिखाई देता है
इनसे कैसे सच्चे चिन्तनकि अपेक्षा करे?
आप्पा - काश्मिरात दिवसा धावल्या पाकिस्तान झिंदाबाद चे नारे चालू आहेत
ReplyDeleteबाप्पा - पंतप्रधान मोदी पृथ्वी प्रदक्षणा करत बसले आहेत , गुजरातचे मुख्यमंत्री असताना कुणी त्याना दारातून आत घेत नव्हते म्हणून इतका जगाचा फेरा करायचा ?
आप्पा - काश्मिरात काय राजकारण चालू आहे ?
बाप्पा - मोडी आणि संघ परिवार काय साधू इच्छितो ?
आप्पा - उत्तर अगदी सोपे आहे !
बाप्पा - खरेतर संजय सोनवणी काकांनी काहीतरी बोलले पाहिजे खरेतर काश्मीरला स्वातात्त्र्य दिले समजा तर काय होईल याची उघड उघड चर्चा झाली पाहिजे , एका क्षणात त्यांच्या स्वातंत्र्याचा घास पाकिस्तान घेईल आणि सर्व संपेल !
आप्पा - संघाची खेळी काय आहे ? सामान्य भारतीयाच्या मनात ३७० कलम रद्द करायची मानसिकता रुजवण्याची ही खेळी आहे - प्रकरण टोकाला नेउन सर्व पक्षीय एकवाक्यता बनवून ३७० कलम रद्द करण्यासाठीची ही खेळी आहे
बाप्पा - फार बरे होईल सर्व सामान्य माणसाला जर काश्मीर मध्ये विकसनासाठी जमीन घेऊन काही करता आले तर काश्मीर भारतात सर्वार्थाने विलीन होईल
आप्पा - कोन्ग्रेस ला हे पटतही असेल , पण !